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working on a little project to use straight water in a tank and then hitting it with some electric mombo jumbo and seperating the hydrogen from it and then running the engine with that.............by product is water............

got all the plans and schematics, just got to build the darn thing.....not very big...will be some months out though.......

this is me personally, not Toyota, i have a 60 mile one way commute to work so i am looking for all the help i can get..............

Mark

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Keep us posted Mark. I didn't realize the Tundra would even run on hydrogen... or is this one of those projects that we might later read about this huge explosion in southern California, lol!

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well, technicaly, any vehicle will run on the setup, it was acutally invented in the 30's i think, may have read it wrong the other night, was a little tired, any way it was way before i was here........they just didn't have the technology to accuratly control the hydrogen seperation/production.....so it was shelved.

You can even suppliment the gas burning and some folks have seen up to 40% increase in mileage with the mix, i think the power will be down, just my assumption by the way.

The problem i will have is the controller is made for carburation, i want to use the OEM ecu to control the orthohydrogen production and let the knock sensor control the parahydrogen, it's the slower burning of the 2 and is required to keep the "ping" down, like a high octane fuel would.

once i wrap my brain around the whole thing i'll get on the ECU controller, I'll get it running on a 14 horse briggs to start with and try the 'ol mower out with the conversion, then the work car.........

but this is my personal project, not tied to Toyota at all........'cept here.....
Mark

Yeah, I was interested in doing this on my old Dodge Ram before I traded it in on my Tundra. I got a little discouraged when I read that it requires a lot of amps (upwards of 30 to 40) to achieve separation and the additional load on the alternator would potentially negate any benefit realized by the hydrogen. That being said, I was going ahead with the project because it was simple enough to build-install-test and remove if it didn't work. Now that I don't have the Dodge anymore to use as a guinea pig, I can't bring myself to experiment on my new Tundra.


I'm very interested in this technology and looking forward to your results, Good luck!

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humm,.......the instructions i have made no mention to the amp draw, a very fragile looking electronics board, not a very high amperage circuit, but i'll look into it, humm, glad i have a high amp alternator...........lol

Mark

I'm really interested in your results. Whatever you do, don't sell out to the oil companies like most of the other inventors did when offered a chunk of change for the fuel saving technology. This is how big oil has supressed the new technologies so they can continue to make a fortune.

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LOL, not gonna happen, with my luck they will start the same thing and then i'll have nuttin again...lol

There are videos on youtube of the system installed on vehicles. Some of the systems off the internet don't do anything because they don't produce enough HHO fast enough. MythBusters ordered one of the systems and that was the case. Other systems seem to work really well, but you have to run the water part of the time and then run gasoline part of the time. Seems like a really neat system and would be awesome to use if it works the way that it's claimed to. I will wait until someone I can trust has has installed it and for my warranty to be done before I install one myself.

I thought I read that Honda is making an HHO car and planning to make it a production car. Runs only off water. Would be nice... unless there is a water shortage.

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yup thats what im trying first, then will try the hho only on the briggs to see the results.........will be fun for sure.

but i'm having a hard time finding a supplier for the stainless tubing i need.......

anyone know some good spots to look?

Mark

Here is a thread that argues both sides of the hydrogen issue pretty good. In a nutshell one of the members states that unless you have an engine that produces more energy than its utilizing, you will not see a net gain. In other words, if the engine is producing excess energy, then that energy could be used to drive the alternator that then separates the hydrogen that is fed back into the engine as fuel (net gain).

If you have an engine that is very efficient to start with (e.g. only produces the amount of energy needed to propel the vehicle + load down the road) then more energy will be required to drive the alternator to separate the hydrogen (net loss given the energy expended creating the hydrogen exceeding the energy made available from the hydrogen).

Is the Tundra 5.7L producing more energy than it is utilizing? Not sure, but if it is then this increases your chances of realizing a net gain.

Either way this is still a very interesting project that I would love to see successfully implemented and no doubt I'm sure you will have fun doing it.