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    Dash lights do not come on in daylight



    I purchased a 2016 Tundra DC Limited last week and just noticed in daylight that the dash lights will only come on when the light switch is in the parking light position or the headlight
    position ;not the automatic position or the off position .By dash lights I mean the gauge lights ,not the warning lights or the center display .In the auto mode as it gets dark ,the headlights and the dash lights come on.I usually keep the switch in the auto mode which keeps the DRL on and supposedly the dash lights but only at night. The local dealership could not find a problem at first look . Any suggestions ?
































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    Have you adjusted the roller switch to set the brightness for the gauges? It should be just to the left of the steering wheel column, beneath the gauge cluster, if I'm remembering correctly.

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    Yes, I adjusted the brightness to the maximum position and as stated they only come on in daylight when the headlight switch is turned to the parking light position or the headlight position. I have a 2015 Camry and a 2015 Sienna and in both as soon as the key is turned to the on position the dash lights come on regardless of the headlight switch position.In my new Tundra at night I can start it in the off position and no dash lights (center info is on and warning symbols are on) and the dash lights come on in the parking light and headlight AND auto positions. The same thing happens in daylight with the following exception ;the dash lights WILL NOT come on in the auto position. This cannot be right.

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    So curious, if you cover up the daylight sensor in the dash, do the lights come on? Does this only happen during the day time?

    I looked thru the 2016 manual and didn't notice anything specific to this.
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    Yes ; if the sensor is covered ,the headlights and dash lights come on. The only way that I can get the dash lights to come on in daylight is turn the parking lights on or the head lights on.The bad part is that I am afraid that this is the way that the it is designed. I can't believe that Toyota expects you to drive all day with parking lights or head lights on.I'm calling the 800 customer service tomorrow to ask about it.

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    Yes , if the sensor is covered , both the dash lights and the head lights come on . The only way to have dash lights in day light is to turn on the parking lights or headlights ; no other way.I'm calling the 800 Customer Service tomorrow and will post their reply.
    Last edited by skylamae; 11-29-2015 at 08:27 PM. Reason: duplicate

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    I was not called back from the Toyota Customer Service Dept. for a week so I just called and talked with a different person. She had my notes but did not fully understand my concern. After I went over the feature concerning the dash lights she said that she had never heard of a problem like this before. She then contacted a supervisor and his reply to her was that the truck was designed this way because in the daylight the gauges did not have to be lighted so long as the driver could see the markings on the gauges . If you wanted to see them better ,then drive with your parking lights or your headlights on and the gauges will be lighted . I personally have never heard such nonsense from anyone. If this is true all Toyotas should have this feature ; my other two Toyotas do not operate this way nor has any of my previous vehicles (all makes) did. I think that I will go back to the dealer and check a 2016 Sequoia if he has one because they are very similar to the Tundra dashboard and also get the tech to call his tech help line for some info. It seems to me that it would be a simple fix to correct this feature ; maybe I can talk to someone with some common sense about it . If there are any members who has a 2016 Tundra or even a 2015 ,please check and see if your dash lights are like mine and post a reply .

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    I found out that this change was made in 2014 . I haven't had the change to talk with a Toyota tech ; does anyone know of a fix for this?. The headlight stalk controls the the lighting sequence, perhaps the stalk from a 2013 Tundra ,before the change was made, would work? The Tundra has not seen many major changes since 2007;I had a 2007 and a 2008 and my 2016 Tundra have a lot in common.

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    I also recently purchased a 2016 Tundra SR5 Dbl Cab 5.7 5TFUY5F15GX522504. My previous vehicle was a 2009 Tundra SR5 Dbl Cab 5.7, so I expected it to be virtually the same. I pointed out to the dealer, when I received the new truck, the dash lights did not come on during the daytime and I could not easily see the gauges. The response was:
    1. They all are like that. (True)
    2. Turn on the parking or headlights lights. (Not a reasonable option)
    3. Call customer service. (“They are designed that way and there is no fix.”)

    After months of trying to live with it, I can’t. I just finished a 3 month/11,000 mile trip around the country pulling a trailer and the lack of dash illumination was a pain in the you know what.
    My previous 2009 Tundra dash lights worked during the daytime.

    Putting on the headlights or parking lights is not an option. That would mean I would have to adjust the dash lights intensity every time I use the truck from day to night. Also the backup/Entune camera screen dims automatically when the headlights/parking is on and is then so dim it can’t be seen during the day. The Entune screen/backup camera screen would have to be brightened every time I put it in reverse during the daytime and reduced at night. Or have the Entune default to full illumination which is too bright/distracking at night.

    The dash lights should have the same default logic as the Entune screen, which is full on during the daytime and adjustable/reduced illumination when the headlights or parking lights are on at night.

    I can’t easily see the gauges in full sunlight and it is worse with sunglasses on. On an overcast/cloudy, day without sunglasses, I can’t see the gauges. Where before my 2009 Tundra only required a casual glance at the dash to instantly show me everything. Now with the 2016, a glance at the dash doesn’t show me what I want to see. When pulling a trailer, I monitor the gauges more frequently. I have to take my eyes of the road for too long to see if all the gauges are OK. This is a major distraction and should not happen.

    I have been searching the web for months hoping someone has found a fix, obviously Toyota hasn’t and does not intend to.


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