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    Time for new tires, looking for advice



    Well guys I've been with you since I bought the truck in July of 2011. Coming up on 30,000 miles and the OE Rugged Trail tires (aka "Ragged Trail") tires are almost gone. Might get another few thousand out of them but I hate driving on the end of life. It's time for tires.

    First, I have read every thread posted here since I joined but thought I'd start a new thread to specifically address my needs. Thanks for obliging.

    I'm a huge fan of the Michelin LTX M/S 2 because of the long life I've seen the M/S and now the M/S 2 deliver. However they don't have the off-road look I want on this truck. That's the only thing holding me back a little but I still might choose them if my practical side wins the argument.

    This is a 2wd truck driven 100% of the time on road, and does not tow heavy loads.

    The OE Rugged Trails are 480 tread wear rated, which for me was only 30k on a lightly driven street truck. Definitely want to increase that on the next purchase!

    My tire size is 275/65/18


    QUESTION #1
    The Michelin LTX M/S 2 in my tire size comes in two flavors.
    Michelin LTX M/S 2 Radial Tire - 275/65R18 123R for about $240, this has 70,000 mile rating
    and
    Michelin LTX M/S 2 Radial Tire - 275/65R18 114T for about $220, this has 70,000 mile rating
    Obviously the more expensive tire has another 1000 lb. load rating. My question is should I pay the extra for the load rating, given that I won't need it. Will I just pay more for a tire that weighs more and delivers lower MPG? What would you estimate the MPG hit would be vs. the longevity of the tire?

    QUESTION #2
    If I decide to go for a more aggressive off-road look in the tire - which appeals to me for looks only - I am looking at the following tires.
    Cooper Discoverer AT/3, comes in both LT275/65R18 113S, and LT275/65R18 123S, this has 55,000 mile rating. Again I want to know if paying more for the higher load rated tire will result in longer life, or am I paying more for a tire that weighs more and will hurt mileage.

    Nitto Terra Grappler LT275/65R18 E 123R, an E-rated tire with a tread wear rating of 500, not much better than the OE 480 rating. This one comes in my tire size.

    Nitto Trail Grappler LT285/65R18 E 125/122Q, an E-rated tire that is larger (285) than my OEM tire size. Is the larger 285 OK for my application? I see reports of 40,000 mile lifespan so while this might give me the look I want, I might not be happy with the longevity.


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    What do you think would be the best choice? It's a very subjective question but given my first choice is the M/S 2 with its 70k lifespan but I don't like the look, what would be a second choice of a tire that has the look but would last longer than 30k?

    Any other tires with an aggressive off-road look that might go 50k you would suggest?
    I know rajar went with the Michelin tire different from the M/S. How do you like them rajar?

    QUESTION #3
    Do the TPMS sensors have to be replaced? My truck is 3.5 years old, maybe 4 years given the build date. It only has 30k but that might not matter if the TPMS sensors have batteries?

    QUESTION #4
    Why are some tires in my size rated as LT tires, others not? The LT tires don't come with tread wear ratings, traction & temperature ratings like non-LT tires. To me this makes comparing them difficult. Why is this, and what do you use to compare mileage ratings on your tire purchase?

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    I don't have Michelin tires on my truck but we do have them on our new Lexus and I will have to say michelin's customer service is excellent. Long story short my wife punctured her tire with only 3000 miles on it. I called Michelin they inform me to take it to an authorized dealer (discount tire) and long story short they gave me 75% off a new tire and gave me road hazard for free. I was impressed! So with that said Michelin may be my next choice for my tundra.


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    I have the Michelin A/T2's, which IMHO, are great off road tires but work very well on the highway also (virtually no road noise). I have 50K+ miles on them and they look like they'll go another 15-20K or so.....the most I will have ever gotten out of a set of tires on the Tundras I've owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTrooper View Post
    I don't have Michelin tires on my truck but we do have them on our new Lexus and I will have to say michelin's customer service is excellent. Long story short my wife punctured her tire with only 3000 miles on it. I called Michelin they inform me to take it to an authorized dealer (discount tire) and long story short they gave me 75% off a new tire and gave me road hazard for free. I was impressed! So with that said Michelin may be my next choice for my tundra.
    I've been saying that for years An example - our 2003 Odyssey's came with Michelin's, we got ~15k miles outta the tires (and if I bought them from a store, they'd have come with a 60k mile warranty). I called Michelin and they gave us 75% off new tires.

    That being said, I love Michelin's...but when I removed the Michelin PAX runflat wheel/tires from our 2007 Honda Odyssey, I bought some Acura RL wheels and couldn't pay $215 per tire for some Michelin's (60k mile warranty), I opted for Yokohama's with 60k mile warranty for about $300 cheaper.

    I did put Michelin MS/2's on my truck again (stupid supercharger and idiot driver), because they are the best tire and mileage warranty I can get.

    Its all about mileage and overall tire feedback.
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    Only question I can answer is #3, I always tell Discount Tire no on the TPMS rebuild - I feel like this is a scam to make a quick buck for the tire shop. You don't need to replace unless there is something wrong, and if there is it will cost you less than a rebuild of the entire set as a new sensor is general $50 or so.

    I opt for high mileage tires as I'm hard on tires, both of our vehicles are 4500-5500 lbs and chew through tires.
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    TCB DE,

    I agree with the above - I have had no issues whatsoever with my LTX MS2. I agree with you - would be nice if they looked a little more "beefy", but that is just a looks thing. If you don't ever off-road I think these tires are the best. Check out my thread for some closeup pics: http://www.toyotatundraforum.com/whe...2-p-275-a.html

    I agree with planomateo - don't think I would mess around with the TPMS rebuild.

    As far as mileage ratings and the LT designation. I think its like the 3/4 ton truck vs. the 1/2 ton truck. The 1/2 ton truck being subject to the EPA fuel economy ratings whereas the "HD" trucks are exempt from them. The light truck (LT) tires I think escape due to the same line of thinking (that is that HD truck owners with LT tires don't really care about fuel economy, etc). Hard to compare other than by owner's posting their experiences and manufacturer reputation.
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    I've got toyo open country at2's...I like them. They are worth looking at

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    I've got some Pirrelli Scorpions on mine. They've been good in mud and snow on drive great on the road. I've been very pleased with them for tow and haul work.

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    Thanks for the comments, guys! I'll look at everything you suggested. Also this is making the news: Terra Grappler G2 All-Terrain Light Truck Radial
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    I'm interested in going up a tire size, from 275/65/18 to 275/70/18, or from 32.09" diameter to 33.19".

    Recalibrating the speedometer is not a priority but I would do so if it fixed problems that came up, like shift points of the tranny. Given that I'm only going up 1", I doubt this would be required, but I'm still looking into it.

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    This thread is my little place to keep information, so that's why I'm throwing this up there.
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